My first truck was a Scania R360, which slowly got upgraded until it was top of the line. The next generation Scania has beaten the competition in fuel tests around the world. While underwhelmed by its engine, I didn't find anything really wrong with the DAF. Posted on 12 June 2017 in Engines, Fuel Efficiency, Heavy-duty | Permalink Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. The Scania Driver Support service helps drivers to learn and retain fuel-saving skills. This was even when the latter two were taken extremely slowly. Technical data Truck model Scania R 730 8x8 Cab Scania CrewCab, long version Engine Scania 16.4-litre V8 730 hp and 3,500 Nm Emissions EEV and Euro 5 Scania '16 litre' V8 turbocharged intercooled direct injection diesel with ... Side skirts – 580mm deep - N/A with XW fuel tanks – 730mm deep (2) Steel bumper – increases front overhang to 1510mm ... Economy Full Power Limited 56 mph SPEED M.P.H. Acceleration also wasn't that great. Used to do a light load on long distance and could see 10 mpg+. Diesel consumption Scania, , R730 V8. This helps to minimize the friction losses in the engine and results in a 0.5% reduction in fuel consumption. [–]redk1teMAN TGX 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child). Scania is introducing a new generation of Euro 6 V8 engines that represents Scania’s response to the growing trend in the transport industry towards heavier, longer trucks. The new V8 builds on many of the successful features from the earlier generations. Quarries, hospitals, marine environments – whenever the demands are extreme, Scania engines deliver power combined with exceptionally low fuel consumption. Scania Chiptuning & ECO-Tuning Through a chiptuning of your truck you save money from the first operation hour on. However, it's very jack-knife happy, and if you drive like a bat out of hell like me with your limiter off, you'll find yourself in some scary situations. This has optimized the engine for fuel efficiency and power to a larger extent than when partly reducing emissions with exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) and conventional aftertreatment system. SCANIA R730 STREAMLINE HIGHLINE CAB. The Scania takes the cake in terms of durability, but given its wayward handling, it needs that. Climbing was quite difficult, and I found myself rocking my head back and forth mumbling come on, come on through my teeth up hills with full throttle. For the record, roadworks restricted the 730’s average speed on the 95 km loop to just 70 km/h while fuel consumption was recorded at 1.4 km/litre, or 3.95 mpg. A new pilot-controlled oil pump adapts the oil pressure to the necessary amount at every moment. Even in 2010, fuel prices were already a problem and the recession was biting deep in the UK, but the Scania R730 was still surprisingly popular. The turbo unit also helps reduce the overall weight of the engine. The new V8 engine meets emissions legislation together with decreased fuel consumption by increased aftertreatment efficiency. Since the launch of our 6% more fuel-efficient next generation Scania, it's not only received the Green Truck Award but it's excelled in the renowned pan-European 1,000 point test. SCANIA R620 ATELIER. The reasons: Low leakage in the high pressure circuit of the fuel system. These trucks provide a fantastic value for the money and in addition, they have outstanding performances coupled with reduced fuel consumption. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. The engine will take you as fast as you dare go, but unless you've got a long straight line, I strongly suggest never exceeding 105kph in the Scania. The Scania Series R heavy-tractor is available with V8 engine and has been developed according to the recent World market requirements. I'm currently rolling a MAN TGX with the 680HP engine, and I'll review it and either the Volvo or the Mercedes when it comes to it. Scania is introducing a new generation of Euro 6 V8 engines that represent a new standard in fuel consumption. The thermostat provides faster oil-pressure build-up during cold starts and, more importantly, maintains an optimal oil temperature under normal operation. Among the improvements Scania is introducing, one that is particularly noticeable is a 5% reduction in diesel fuel consumption, thanks to factors such as improved powertrains and better aerodynamics. Aside from HP differences, this comparison and others I will do in the future are apples-to-apples. With an average fuel consumption of 24.92 litre/100 km and an average speed of 79.91 km/h on the same 350 km long test track, the difference between Scania and the next best competitor was a healthy 0.4 litre per every 100 km. The power output of the 16.35-litre engine might be well above the 10hp-per-tonne rule of thumb and that clearly hits economy but the Scania R730 … [–]unrustlableScania R730 Topline[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children). If the engine has the torque and stamina to propel the truck at low engine speeds, less fuel is used. Their construction is first-rate and they're born to … I find the Scania's interior to be drab and boring, but its instruments and digital display are excellent and easy to read. Scania R420 LA4x2HNA specifications. Consequently, the new V8 trucks have a higher load-carrying capacity. While the top speed may be 1-2 km/h lower than the American gear (the Scania topped out at 98 km/h on the GPS), the average speed was higher, proving the benefit of the extra power. The new aftertreatment system includes improved evaporation, improved SCR catalysts (selective catalytic reduction) and an improved diesel particulate filter. The fixed geometry increases efficiency and results in a 0.5% reduction in fuel consumption. https://instagram.com/KrychuTIR KrychuTIR™ 2017 © Maximum speed. 7 years ago. Torque The development entails highly complex computations with a multitude of factors to consider. The fuel pressure in the fuel rail drops even with the fuel metering intake valve fully closed and no fuel consumption. This helps to reduce fuel consumption by approximately 0.5%, while at the same time reducing noise emissions. I still prefer the Scania a little bit to the MAN, but I'm generally impressed with it. ENGINE REVS/MIN 2250 2000 1750 1500 1250 1000 750 500 250 0 Max. Saving around 10,000 €, lower fuel consumption, more payload—models such as the MAN TGS, Mercedes Axor, Scania G and Volvo FM offer a lot of truck in comparison to their larger siblings, and they make the hearts of shippers and movers beat faster. I began my game with a Renault, switched to the Volvo when I hit level 16, loved the power (pulled a tiny bit better on hills but didn't accelerate as fast as the Scania) but it damaged on curbs, channel tunnel ramps and even the Trameri job spot ramp in the archway entry spot. The unit delivered was the Scania R730 truck powered by the V8 engine, dubbed the 'King of the Road' for its high performance, power, and fuel efficiency. I think the DAF's automatic transmission is a little more wonky than the Scania's and doesn't really shift in an intuitive manner unlike the latter's. I might. Fuel tank capacity 600 l. Load capacity. The tall diff ratio, did mean that cruising revs were relatively low, and that, according to Alan, is where it needs to be to get the optimum fuel economy. “There will be increased fuel consumption with Euro 6 technology” – so predicted many prophets of doom in the industry a few years ago when the new stringent emissions regulations were coming into being. The acceleration, even with a load, rivals that of the AI cars. Had a V8 Scania and the fuel figures didn't start going up till it hit 100,000km. If you are uploading a mod, please use a reputable website to upload to and MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO VIRUSES!! Scania is introducing a new generation of Euro 6 V8 engines that represents Scania’s response to the growing trend in the transport industry towards heavier, longer trucks. AESTHETICS: On the outside, I find the Scania to be the best-looking truck in the game, and the DAF more boxy than a Volvo station wagon. The coolant pump utilizes a viscose coupling that is only engaged when needed. More energy is extracted from the exhaust gases, which increases engine efficiency. Pulled ferry trailers and we were loaded both ways 90% of the time. This is mainly due to a simplified engine layout with fewer parts overall—for example, the exhaust gas recirculation unit has now been removed. Curves are terrifying at speed in the Scania, but less so in the DAF. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. If you find a post that breaks one of these rules, please report it! Review & Comparison: Scania R730 vs DAF XF510, its instruments and digital display are excellent and easy to read, its interior is a more pleasant place with the wood on the dash. Fuel economy is as good as for Scania's well-known Euro 3 engines. Scania - R730 V8 Diesel, year 2015, 537 kW (730 PS), automatic User: xXRapidLarsXx Baureihe: Streamline Fahrwerk:4x2 Driving American equipment, the best I have achieved on this job in the past is 1.8 km/l, so the R730 has dispelled the myth surrounding fuel economy. The exhaust manifolds meet in the turbine housing from both sides instead of meeting in the turbo manifold, as they did in the previous generation, which was a more expensive and heavier solution. With the introduction of a single bank exhaust gas manifold, the overall weight of the engine has been reduced, while at the same time the V8 sound has been improved. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Please do not post anything in this subreddit unrelated to Euro Truck Simulator 2, including Euro Truck Simulator 1. 2.400 bar While the 16.4-liter cylinder block remains the same, the complete engine weighs approximately 80 kilograms (176 lbs) less than its predecessor. Average fuel consumption. Lower friction losses and the reduced energy used for pumping help to decrease fuel consumption by up to 0.5%. The new rotated twin scroll fixed geometry turbo is common in the racing industry, but this is its first use in the heavy vehicle industry. Scania R730 Topline. The new aftertreatment system is an enabler for reaching Euro 6 emission levels without the need for an EGR. Its wheelbase is longer, which makes the steering less nimble and the turning radius larger, but if you let it run at 115 or 120 kph, it still maintains more grip on the road, and is far more stable than the Scania. I haven't tried the Volvo yet, not decked out at least. Do not give away torrent-related things related to this game. [–]unrustlableScania R730 Topline[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children). However, if you value some more stable handling in all environments, then the DAF is for you. Today we have hindsight, and the reality was different. The DAF gets some redemption in this department. A new clutch compressor engages automatically when needed. Switched to the Scania when I got fed up of this and haven't looked back. The new V8 engine platform ranges from 520 to 650 hp; the current V8 engine platform will still be used for the 730 hp version Scania V8 engine. 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Power is king for me. Yes, it scares the shit out of me in the bends at speed, but I much prefer to accelerate my way up hills. The introduction of an oil thermostat has reduced the fuel consumption between 0.5 and 1%. Scania XPI enables Scania to focus on offering the best possible operating economy, while leading the market in environmental concern, performance and driveability. The DAF, on the other hand, has a more difficult-to-read display, and smaller but still legible analog gauges. The Miller camshaft used in the new 520 hp V8 engine reduces airflow through the engine at low load. The engines, which are available at 520, 580 and 650 horsepower, can reduce fuel consumption by 7 to 10 percent for customers with vehicles that have higher combined truck and trailer weights, higher average speeds, … I'll be sticking with the Scania :). Scania also offers Euro-6 versions of the V8 with power ratings from 520hp through to 730hp. SERVICES . But this time, out of approximately 650 components that make up the entire engine, 200 are completely new. Rendered by PID 896 on r2-app-0cb6c441201e64be4 at 2021-01-09 22:28:08.834888+00:00 running d8cca48 country code: US. New Scania P320 for Eoin Gavin Transport . At a press conference today in Hanover, Scania… [–]BastardoInc 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children), Excellent review thank you. Axle alignment, tyre pressure, air deflector adjustment – keep your truck as fuel-efficient as it was on day one, with Scania … -Indicators (Specific to Scania 2016)-Cruise Control Telemetry added:-Speed limit with warning-Fuel quantity in litres and percentage of fuel tank-Gear selection-Estimated range*-Engine temperature in celsius-Digital RPM-Cargo type and mass - Acceleration, braking and clutch input - Truck and trailer damage - Job Remaining Time (JRT) This also results in better engine breathing, which helps to improve fuel consumption. Higher torque, with tall final drive ratios is becoming a more common spec these days. The acceleration, even with a load, rivals that of the AI cars. This will over-expand the in-cylinder gases, with more power to the crankshaft for the same amount of fuel. It averaged 8.5 mpg and was driven without fuel economy in mind. Its power is almost mesmerizing. The DAF, however, left much to be desired. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 896 on r2-app-0cb6c441201e64be4 at 2021-01-09 22:28:08.834888+00:00 running d8cca48 country code: US. Wheel drive 4x2. I've logged a few thousand km in the Iveco Hi-Way, and that thing's a goddamn tipsy-topsy death trap. For example, Scania’s new inline-six, 13-liter and 410 horsepower engine set new […] The new turbo unit also allows for a higher boost pressure, resulting in improved combustion. The new … Photo by EuroTransportMedia. (ex. John Noonan accepting keys of a New Generation Scania R730 6x2/4 from Tom Nolan. I haven't played a whole lot of ETS2 lately since a lot of games went on sale on Steam and I've been focusing more on them. ETS2 1.39 - Euro Truck Simulator 2 - Mercedes Actros MP4 - Promods 2.51-... My buddy got wrecked hard on TMP; Keep an eye on my left mirror. This is possible because the inlet port is held open for a longer time and the effective inlet stroke is shorter than the expansion stroke. The cross-functional team that developed the new V8 engine focused on four key areas: fuel efficiency to improve customers’ profitability, serviceability to increase the vehicles’ uptime, improved production processes to increase quality for even better robustness, and a contemporary design to match the New Generation Scania trucks. Overtaking and climbing are extremely easy with 730 horses on tap. Scania's first Euro 4 engines are already on the market. The TGX is a good truck for sure, I'd say keep it. Scania R650 and Refrigarated Trailer Eddie Stobart skin, Krone ProfiLiner by Sogard3 - 1.39 - Euro Truck Simulator 2, Volvo FH 3rd Generation | ETS2 Mods v1.39. Elimination: Each of the new V8s are characterized by advanced technical solutions that contribute to reduced weight, increased availability, and the 7-10% reduction in fuel consumption. Fuel consumption isn't that great, but then again the most powerful engines of the line never are, and I didn't notice a big difference in it versus the DAF (I've got all 6 eco-driving points). Overall, I prefer the Scania. Improved driver performance can save up to 10% in fuel consumption. Although the 730 hp V8 is still based on the current engine platform, it has not been left untouched. I would be interested to know your opinion on the Volvo FH16. and join one of thousands of communities. Scania has a longstanding tradition of offering powertrains with low-revs and high torque as key elements for achieving low fuel consumption. I haven't had a slew of crashes in all brands, but I can tell you the DAF is the more fragile of these two. Are you still planning to do another review? You will be banned from the subreddit, even if you didn't know! Fuel consumption of the 2004 Scania R420 Topline with loaded semitrailer. At high load, compression work is moved out from the engine to the turbo compressor. The R620 features the latest systems for reduction of fuel consumption and pollution, is more powerful and also has a sophisticated set of electronic drive and braking control systems. HANDLING: The Scania is much like a sports car: powerful with a short wheelbase, corners very well, and has a small turning radius. ENGINE: The Scania is a beast among insects. V8 trucks account for around 60 percent of Scania s sales in Norway. The updated 730 hp will, for example, feature the pilot-controlled oil pump, the variable water pump and the new larger aftertreatment system as well as an updated engine management system, which will improve its fuel efficiency—especially at low load. Better aerodynamics, bigger fuel-tanks and a new system, Scania Driver Support, that gives the driver individual feedback on the driving. Specific fuel consumption is according to Scania at its best point of 199 g/kWh and the specific oil consumption is 0.15 percent from fuel consumption. Notes: The fuel rail pressure drops during engine braking when the fuel metering inlet valve must be closed and no fuel should be consumed. Most of the vehicles are fitted with Scania V8 engines because of the exceptionally demanding topography in Norway. You guys wanted some comparisons, so here's a start. Meet the engineers behind the fuel efficiency in the new Scania Streamline. This in turn increases the exhaust temperature, which helps to reduce the fuel consumption by 0.5%. The interiors are a somewhat different story. Among the most enjoyed truck suppliers from all around the planet is Scania. The Scania R620 is the most recent version of this highly popular Swedish tractor. Review & Comparison: Scania R730 vs DAF XF510 (self.EuroTruck2), submitted 7 years ago by unrustlableScania R730 Topline. Archived. I am currently only driving the MAN and would like to know if a switch would be useful. 9-litre Inline five-cylinder engine, 13-litre inline six, or 16-litre V8 - all give low fuel consumption. Both are sensible choices and will deliver the goods, both literally and figuratively. I did a few runs with the base models in quick jobs, and at that point, there's not a whole lot of difference between them. 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